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War gestern in einer Disco (u4) und wollt eigentlich ein paar Mädls ansprechen, aber die Musik dort war einfach überall so laut, da hätte ich wirklich schrein müssen... Und dazu hatte ich echt keine Lust, also hab ichs leider gelassen und jetzt im nachhinein ärger ich mich natürlich darüber... Wie macht ihr das, oder lockt ihr sie irgendwie raus??

Und noch was :]

Wenn da eine Truppe aus 5 Leuten oder so, Burschen und Mädchen, dort steht, wie sprecht ihr die da an?? Einfach antippen? Stell mir das auch ziemlich riskant wegen streitereien und so vor...

Aber wichtiger ist mir das Anliegen in der Disco. Bin ernsthaft am überlegen ob ich noch in Discos gehn soll...

Vielen Dank für eure Hilfe!!

mfg, Hostile

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Gast 11223344

diese art disco ist einfach eine andere art spielfeld.

war am we in einer ähnlichen disco (milchbar/münchen) die musik so laut, dass die ohren schon fast weh taten und keinerlei sitzgelegenheiten.

da läuft das ganze aber trotzdem auf anderer ebene ab. du musst spaß haben und sehr hilfreich ist´s grade dort, wenn du gut tanzen kannst. inner state ist wichtig und aussehen hilft da auch sehr.

antippen oder sofort auf die tür zeigen...da kannst du den korb gleich einplanen.

aber vieles läuft über blickkontakt. und dann ab auf die tanzfläche. wenn du einen guten opener hast der grade passt, kann man den auch noch schreien aber mehr schon auch nicht, sonst wirds störend. und wieder ab zum tanzen und versuchen sie da heiß zu machen. wenn sie sich etwas an dich gewöhnt hat und´s auf der tanzfläche gut lief, kannst du sie zum luft schnappen mit nach draußen nehmen.

gruppen sprech ich da drin grundsätzlich nicht an. sondern blick -> lächeln -> feedback abwarten -> hin an die hand nehmen und tanzfläche.

was ich in diesen discos doch recht spackig finde, sind die typen die sabbernd am rand stehen und drauf warten, dass ihnen die frau zufliegt.

wenns dir da drin nicht gefällt, warum gehst du nicht in discos mit einer lounge und leiserer musik?

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SECRETS OF

THE

DANCEFLOOR

by

Skyrazer

© copyright 2002

all rights reserved

A complete guide how to master the Dancefloor

INTRODUCTION

Well, well, well, looks like someone wants to know how to work a Dancefloor

huh? J You know, I was actually really surpised that there isn't any

material about Dancefloors out there. There is some stuff but you still wont

be able to put all the pieces together and solve the puzzle. So I thaught

why don't I write my knowledge down and share it with you Bongo-Heads *lol*,

just kiddin.

Everything what is in this book is field-tested and totally accurate, you

wont find here any hypothetical crap and stuff like that. But let me first

of all tell you something that's really important: Sarging on the Dancefloor

shouldn't become your only area where you work, its an option ! If you like

to party and dance then here we go, but don't concentrate just on the

Dancefloor. Its always good to know how things actually work and to extend

your knowledge and skills. So lets get the thing rollin.

About myself

I call myself a Disco-Knight.but who I am, well, I'll keep that a secret.

But I know what Im talking about in this guide, I've all been there, I cant

remember how much time I spent on the floors *lol* but it was really a lot,

sometimes even 3 times a week.anyway, let's get the party started !

GETTING STARTED

See, many guys out there say that the Dancefloor is a trap, and to avoid it

with all costs.well, running away isn't the right solution, never. But there

still is some wisdom in they're words, you see, if you step on the floor its

more likely that you will get stuck on it, hang around, don't do anything at

all and finally become a wallflower...IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ! The

Dancefloor is just as long a trap until you know how to disarm it. That's

it. And that's exactly what Im going to show you, the way to MASTER the

freakin thing !

PUA-Rules

I think the Pick-Up Artist (PUA) Rules are pretty clear. NO ALCOHOL ! I

never touched booze, and real Pick-Up Artists don't touch alcohol when they'

re out sarging, got that pal? Good, because if you still need booze to go

sarging, you cheat and it doesn't count if you score. That's my opinion. If

you can only approach when you've had some drinks, you just suck and

seriously, I don't have any respect from guys who pick up chicks when they

have been drinking. There are guys who are telling me how good they are with

women, but it always turned out that they were drinking after I asked

them.Suckers.so if you want to get better, NO ALCOHOL !

PART I : THE DANCEFLOOR

Chapter 1: Basics

Ok lets get over the Basics.The Dancefloor is an area of its own because it

has totally different rules. Basically, if you want to work a floor you have

to learn that people in this field act, behave and respond in a totally

different way than anywhere else. And that's just because there are 3

general characteristics which actually mark the Dancefloor:

1. Dancing: If you touch the floor, you move your butt to the beat, if

you don't,

get off

2. KINO: You can start KINO (kinoesthaetics) immediately because its

natural

3. Talking: You don't need to talk, trying to talk on the Dancefloor is

pretty difficult, depends on the music volume thou.

According to these 3 characteristics you can do things that you wont be able

to do anywhere else, except on the Dancefloor.

Because of the loud music its really hard to talk, so you can only work with

what you can either see or feel ! You can only use visual or kinoesthaetic

Skills (Body-Language and KINO). So you think that your weapons are limited?

Wrong, they are not limited, you can use stuff that wont work somewhere else

or has even more effect if you use it on the Dancefloor. Read on.

Chapter 2: Creating Attention

When you touch the Dancefloor its time to create "Attention". There are 2

ways to do that:

a) You dance better than everyone else and throw all those guys back to

stoneage or

B) you joke around and have fun !

If you are not a good Dancer then its time for Plan B J Now, as soon as you

step on the floor you SMILE ! No cheesy smiles, a smile of having FUN. Get

out there and HAVE A PARTY ! HAVE FUN ! If the Party is going nuts, clap

your hands, get 'em in the air, have the party of your life. The best way to

do that is by going with one of your buddies, just joke around with him and

have some fun. (Hey but I don't mean that you'll become a clown *lol*)

You got that pal? J Good, now lets analyze this (no we aint gonna watch the

movie lol.but good movie though, gotta watch it again sometimes):

See, if you just keep your mouth shut, don't smile, just move a bit to the

beat and look around you can tell so damn easy that you're only on the floor

to pick-up chicks. And trust me girls smell this ! Those guys are all AFCs,

they hesitate, they are nervous and they don't have a fuckin' clue. But if

you get out there with the mental state of just having fun and joke, HEY,

you've just done it, you will come across as different *clap clap clap* lol

Seriously, if you really do this, everybody will think and see that you are

a funny guy who likes to party and you won't come across as needy. Hey girls

like to party as well and have some fun, so don't wonder yourself when some

chicks will be dancing next to you, they aren't there just by accident J

Chapter 3: Social Proof

Same story, if other girls see that other girls like you, dance with you or

are just near you, they, well done. But if you get blown out and other girls

see you, its hard to repair the situation because it was obvious. Example:

You try to dance with a girl, she blows you out, everybody will know what

has happened. Its not quite the same when you're talking to some girls at a

bar and you get blown out there, because its not that obvious, you can

repair the situation and nobody will actually know what you were talking

about. On the Dancefloor if you get blown out, the effect is stronger

because you only approach to dance/pick them up. But if you then dance with

a chick it works in the same intensity, just the other way round. If she

dances with you, you must be the man. That's it. But the whole social proof

thing just works if people see you, so don't worry if you get blown out

because it only takes place in between 2 or 3 seconds and if a floor is

packed just people near you will notice IF they even did notice. But dancing

with a girl is a longer period of time, and more people are likely to see

you so it actually works in your favour if you do it smart J

PART II : WORKING A FLOOR

Chapter 1: Different Pick-Up Styles

Listen carefully, there are 3 different ways of approaches on a Dancefloor,

each one does work but the success-rate varies extremely between each one of

them:

a) Knight-Technique ®

B) Get-Lucky

c) Caveman-Approach

d) Audible Pick-Up

The Knight-Technique ® is the one with the highest success-rate and the one

I use, I'll discuss that later.let me discuss the 3 others first

Get-Lucky

Actually not much to explain here.its all about luck. You're on the

Dancefloor and a girl likes you, is dancing next to you, smiles, eye-contact

blah blah etc. and if you're not a total idiot you improvise and do

something.and you score.no skills needed, its "luck" ! Everybody gets lucky

sometimes, but I don't wait, I sarge !

Caveman-Approach

There are a lot of different caveman-approaches but they all have the same

characteristics. It takes guts to do it and its shameless. Almost everyone

who does caveman-approaches on a Dancefloor is drunk or has had a few

drinks, that's where they get the guts from.

Examples: - Approach, grab her ass and "shake it baby"

- Approach/dance slowly towards her and try to dance with her

About 70% of the Pick-Ups which take place on the Dancefloor are exactly the

Caveman-Way. They DO work, but it's the AFC-Way, get out of the Dark-Ages,

NOW !

Audible Pick-Up

Some guys confound the Dancefloor with a Bar and they try to chat the girls

up. Fuck that, you wont be able to get a long sentence across. You are on a

floor, why are you trying to only talk, girls are on the Dancefloor to move

and dance, when you talk to them they will stop dancing immediately because

they cant hear you. Audible Pick-Ups are a NO NO !

Around 25% are still Audible-Pick-Ups, its pretty much an AFC-Move, but just

because of you're ON the Dancefloor.

Observe the Dancefloor once, and you will discover that all of these 3

Pick-Up Styles take place. Almost every guy only knows these 3 Styles, and

so do the girls, so whats the deal, you will not come across as

different.That's an important thing like everywhere else, you have to BE

DIFFERENT ! So you better read on pal J

Now, lets turn the music on maximum volume and let me tell you what works

like nothing else:

CHAPTER 2 : The KNIGHT-TECHNIQUE ®

Dancing is sexual, without a doubt. But can you imagine how many needy guys

are out there? That's right, freakin hundreds ! You don't wanna be the 6th

caveman by just grabbing her ass right at the beginning. BE DIFFERENT !

I actually like all this Knight stuff, so let me tell you how I see it:

I'm a Disco-Knight, the Dancefloor is the battlefield, everything besides

the floors is my stronghold, my buddies and wings are my allies and

competition is the enemy. The ladies are what you can win. Its not a battle

between you and the girls, you have to deal with competition and that's what

you fight against ! Before I'll go any further lets travel back in time,

about 800 years from now, to the 13th century (Cool we're in history-class

lol):

In castles and strongholds people celebrated victories, weddings etc with

food, wine and music. Imagine a party just like that, a ball for example.

There was an area where you could dance and an area where all the people

were chatting, sitting down or just hanging around. Let's say the princess

was sitting somewhere and the King just happened to be out of town J There

was a fearless Knight who wanted to dance with the Princess, what did he do?

That's right, he walked up to her, pulled out his hand, smiled and said:

"Will you give me the honor to dance with me Mylady?" If she wanted to she

took his hand and followed him to the.well.Dancefloor J

Now, what exactly did the fearless Knight do in this example? He first

walked up to the lady, smiled, pulled out his hand, then asked for a dance

and lead her to the Dancefloor. But we all know that this is dated and doesn

't work in the 21th century. Guess what you're right IF you would do it

exactly like a 13th century Knight. But in the present we are Disco-Knights,

so we do it a bit different.

But before I'll explain the initial Knight-Technique ® you got to have the

right mindset.

We do NOT ASK for a dance (like the old Knights did), but we still INVITE

the girl. If she doesn't want to, its her loss, not ourse because WE are the

host. You got that pal? Nice J

Now heres the deal, the Knight-Technique ® is divided in 4 parts:

Knights-Technique ®

Locate (L)

Approach (A)

Lead (L)

Close ©

That's the system. If one part breaks down you cant finish it (her *lol*).

Its like your climbing up a wall on a rope, if the rope breaks somewhere you

cant get on top of the wall. Now lets start:

LOCATE

Actually pretty simple: Keep your eyes open for girls, but remember, in

almost every case there are groups of girls, a girl is hardly dancing alone.

She would be dead meat if she was lol. Ok, to maximize your success-chances

you cant approach each girl in the same way.let me show you what I mean.

There are 3 different types of groups:

- 2 Girls

- 3 Girls

- 4+ Girls

A set of 2 Girls is in my opinion the easiest scenario. Now listen, you

should not approach a set of 2 alone.get a wing or someone else from the

floor. You cant keep both girls busy in the long run. Its not like removing

obstacles beside the Dancefloor where you got to have permission to talk to

the target otherwise her friend will cockblock. On the Dancefloor if the

obstacle wont get any attention but the target does (eg: when you're dancing

with her), the obstacle will get bored and cockblocks. Even if you disarmed

the obstacle, it just doesn't work for a long time, you just set the

timebomb maybe on 5 minutes.Someone has to keep the obstacle BUSY. If not

the obstacle will either cockblock or your target is going to eject. In that

case when your target ejects she will say "I have to get back to my friend"

because she sees that her friend is getting bored. Keep that in mind. Even

if the target is getting to like you, she hast to eject if the obstacle

cockblocks or is getting bored. But lets say someone does keep the obstacle

busy.Hey, you're in !

If you try to approach a group of 3 girls with a wing, one will feel as the

3rd wheel and and you have to deal with a cockblock or a "I have to get back

to my friend". In that case you can either approach on yourself or with 2

wings, both ways will work.

4 or more girls in a group is simple because anything goes. You can approach

alone or with a wing. No girl will get bored because one has at least

another of her friends to dance with so they will hardly cockblock or eject.

Once you've spotted the target, got your wing all set its time to approach.

APPROACH

This takes some balls, but when you've done it a couple times you get used

to it and it will become a lot easier. Now that you've spotted you target,

its as everywhere else the 3s-rule and go get her !

Remember, we do not ask for a dance, we give her a chance to dance with US !

Now, the whole point is to take her hand and get her to dance with you.

Heres exactly how its done:

You walk up to her, take her hand gentle and in a smoothly way, smile and

look in her eyes, then pull her to you. Do this slowly, not fast, we are

Knights, not freakin cavemans *lol*

Another important thing to know is that she has to SEE YOU approaching !

Approach in about an angle of 30-45 degrees. It will increase your success a

lot and the chances that she will pull away are less.

Now let me show you something, heres an Expectation-Tree, so you know

exactly what you will expect and you will not get lost or freak out J

Expectation-Tree

1. Walk-up a) she keeps dancing, neutral position

B) she sees you coming, eye-contact,

turns her back on you

c) she sees you coming, eye-contact,

(smiles), keeps dancing

2. Take hand She will look in your face, then when you touch

her hand she will look down (where the

KINO has just started) and then back up again. Don't

forget to smile here.

3. Pull her to you a) smiles and follows you without any resistance

B) Doesn't know whats going on, resists a

bit but is still following you

(look at her face, you'll recognise

when she is in this state)

c) she resists and pulls away. Eject here

Only eject in 3c, if anything else than this, keep going, you have to be a

bit persistant sometimes. Remember, do not rush it. If you walk up, dance

still a bit to the music and approach slowly. Then when you take her hand,

slow down your movements, touch her hand gently and smooth, then pull her to

you, this again slowly and gentle.

Good, now that you got that we can move on. Hey I know its always up to the

guy but cmon, we can choose which girl we want so.I love it J

LEAD

Ok, shes in front of you, holding your hand, now what? Simple, all you have

to do is lead the situation where you want it to go (I don't have to explain

that one lol).

There are 2 ways to do this:

a) Stay on the Dancefloor

B) Get her off the Dancefloor

a) Stay on the Dancefloor

You have to dance with her, that's why you are on the Dancefloor, but you

have to HOLD her all the time. From now on theres 1 important rule: Kino,

Kino, Kino ! But before you can close you have to create rapport AND

separate her from her friends. That's really easy, just dance away with your

girl that her friend doesn't see you two anymore. Each girl will be thinking

"hmm, I wonder what my friend is doing right now, maybe they're making out

right now.etc" That's social proof, each chick will think that the other is

all over you or your wing. So she will be even more receptive to Kino if you

separate her from her friend.

I use 2 techniques to create rapport with a girl when Im dancing with her:

The 1-1 or the 2-1-2 Technique

The 1-1 T. works like this: 1 step forward, wait, 1 step forward, wait, etc.

You make progress all the time, and I mean more Kino all the time.

Eg: You're holding her hand, then you put you left hand around her waist,

then your other arm, then you put her one arm over you left shoulder, her

right arm over your other shoulder, then your hands move down her ass etc.

You carry on all the time, you don't drop back.

The 2-1-2 T. is just about going 2 steps forward and then 1 back, 2 forward

1 back. That's less aggressive than the 1-1 T and it lets the girl kinda

recover from the Kino. Its more relaxing and less needy. I actually prefer

this one.

You see you don't have to talk here, you can go directly to Kino, even to

heavy Kino. You will create rapport immediately if you dance with your

target and initiate Kino.

B) Get her off the Dancefloor

If she is not really receptive at this time and is a bit "lost", get her off

the Dancefloor.

After you pulled her away try to talk to her on the floor.Hehe you will not

understand a single word lol, so what do you do? Exactly, make gestures that

you don't understand shit, take her Hand and LEAD her OFF the Dancefloor to

a quieter area. They do hardly resist. Hey she is now away from her friends

who may be making out right now on the Dancefloor with your wing. You can

use your voice now because the music isn't that loud. Sneaky isn't it J

CLOSE

You will not be able to actually "close" the deal on the floor, so heres

what you can do:

a) Tonguedown

B) Close

In order to tongue her down, you better stay on the Dancefloor. You can get

her off the floor afterwards anyway after you tongued her down and then

carry on.

a) Tonguedown

When you are that far with Kino on the Dancefloor, the girl expects you to

make a move. If you've done enough Kino it's a tonguedown. Go for it !

Lets say you're still dancing with her, then comes the moment when you think

its time to finish the deal.get her closer to you, dance close, get your

arms around her waist or ass, doesn't matter, get her arms on your

shoulders, but its not necessary. Get closer to her and just go for it. Well

I know it sounds weird but in most cases I just dive in and it works. If you

do it slowly and smooth enough.BAM ! Tonguedown ! You don't believe me? I

closed a chick in 5 seconds of meeting her. That's no bullshit, im serious.

Sometimes even I am astonished what kinda stuff you can do on the

Dancefloor. And it DOES WORK !

B) Close

To actually fuck-close or #close the deal you have to get her off the

Dancefloor. Use your voice now ! Create more rapport if necessary and get

her number or fuck-close the deal !

CHAPTER 3: Troubleshooting

Sometimes it doesn't work the way you expected it, so heres the

troubleshooting-section.:

Lead: If you don't go anywhere with the 1-1 or 2-1-2 Technique try to talk

to her, and since that doesn't work where you are get her off the

Dancefloor.

Lead: When you're leading her off the Dancefloor she looks around hecticly.

Watch out, sometimes she isn't just looking for her friend, her boyfriend

could see her ! Be aware of that.

Close: She pulls away when you're trying to tongue her down.

Figured that one out when I had to improvise on a HB9.tell her to be quiet

(gesture 1 finger over your mouth).slow down your movements then tell her to

close her eyes, you can make gestures as well, then smile.if she doesn't do

it, try to talk to her and say "Close your eyes.you gonna love me for this

one." Pace movements, slow them down and dive in.

PART III : OTHER THINGS TO KNOW

Chapter 1: Different types of guys

Theres a lot more competition on the Dancefloor than anywhere else. Its

really just because you don't need to talk, so heres a list of guys you'll

run into:

Alcoholics

They don't give a fuck, they approach fearless and sometimes they even

score. But they cheat and they are AFCs, well lets say drunk AFCs lol. But

when they gotta talk they usually fuck it up. They're cavemans that's all.

Biggest competitors !

AFC

The normal AFC (not drunk yet J) can easy be detected. Hes not really

dancing, hes just moving a bit to the beat and almost always on the same

spot. Hes looking around, no smile, mouth shut and nervous as hell. And when

he tries to dance with a girl you can see him hesitating. No competition

Colored Guys

What I know from my experience is that colored people rarely hesitate, they

are less fearless than white guys. They even dance better than the white

people.they can be a competition but you wont find them on every party, they

usually go to RnB, Soul or Hip-Hop Parties.

Dancers

There are guys who can smoke a floor (I'm one of them, didn't take a single

dance lesson thou), but they are actually more interested in dancing than in

picking up chicks. Not really competitors but if they want to they can get

it.

Fagots

You better watch your ass pal lol

Listen, if you joke around on the floor with your buddies and you are just

having fun, you can compete with the Gogo-Dancers !

Chapter 2: Gimmicks

You know, sometimes I even ask myself why I don't use gimmicks more often.

There are gimmicks who work like hell on the Dancefloor, here they are:

Hat

Best Dancefloor-Gimmick in my opinion because everyone wants to wear your

hat, and especially girls will just grab it without asking. So there you go,

try it, its really funny J

Party-Glasses

Works just the same as a hat, but I still prefer a hat. Its easier to get a

hold of it anyway.

Camera

Oldest Gimmick in the world: A Camera ! Works on and off the Dancefloor. You

gotta have a camera thou but it works amazingly good. Just make sure you

keep the conversation going.

Chapter 3: Trance

You know, there are songs that will put some girls in trance.it usually

happens when it's a really good song everybody knows or whatever. DO NOT

Approach them when they are in trance, you will brake the current state.It's

a difference between getting excited and being in trance, so make sure she

isn't in trance when you approach, when shes excited theres no problem at

all.

Chapter 4: Hotties

You cant approach Hotties (HB9-HB10) the same way you would do with other

girls. You have to "work her" before you approach, because as you might

know, they get hit on all the time, so the caveman-approach will rarely

work. Heres what you do: STICK OUT YOUR TONGUE and SMILE ! Be careful here,

you have to do it the right way, otherwise you will insult her and she will

get pissed off. Do it like this:

Stick out your tongue, bite with your teeth on it and then smile (When you

smile you can see your tongue and your teeth). Then shake your head a bit as

you disagreed or wanted to say "No", then turn your back on her. Now shes

got her challenge, and that's YOU ! Now wait a couple minutes and then

approach. Make sure someone keeps the obstacle busy, you cant take care of

both girls on the Dancefloor. Best thing to do here is get her off the

Dancefloor once you pulled her away.

Chapter 5: Useful Tools

One big part of being a Knight or a Dancefloor-PUA is that you have to WALK

LIKE ONE ! That's called Body-Language. Recognising that you are an

Alpha-Male just by seeing you walking.that's part of being a Disco-Knight !

So in order to walk like one you have to practise as anything else as well.I

created a tool that will help you:

Party-Simulater

The next time when you're walking thru a city, get yourself a Disc-Man. Get

some Club-Music on and put both earplugs in your ears. Now walk !

You will immediately walk slower, be a lot more aware of the environment

because you only hear your Party-Music. It puts you in the state of being

on a party. You will slow down your movements, you will spot chicks more

easily and you practise your entire Body-Language !

Walk slower, upright and be a Knight !

Put some of these songs on, they are great for this

- Camisra - Let me show you

- Public Domain - Operation Blade

- JX - Son of a gun

FINAL WORDS

But remember: DO NOT concentrate just on sarging on the Dancefloor, its just

an OPTION !

Now get out there and practise!

"Knights exercise their power and skills with dignity.and Knights we all are

!"

Skyrazer

Disco-Knight

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Und was macht man, wenn man nicht gut tanzen kann? Gibts da eine Alternative? <_<

in dem text steht doch, man muss nicht gut tanzen können .. hauptsache man hat seinen spaß und zeigt das auch ...

oder du machst einfach nen tanzkurs ...

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hat jemand die knight methode so probiert? Erfolge / Misserfolge - Verhältnis?

Mir kommt das irgendwi so altmodisch rüber, carveman war bisher irgendwie cooler ^^

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hat jemand die knight methode so probiert? Erfolge / Misserfolge  -  Verhältnis?

Mir kommt das irgendwi so altmodisch rüber, carveman war bisher irgendwie cooler ^^

ich denke mal es hängt auch davon ab, in welcher disco man ist ..

ob es eher nen edelschuppen ist, oder eine, wo sich alle billig besaufen ...

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wie beim normalen approachen auch: es ist scheiss egal was du tanzt (ob tango zu techno oder spacko zu hip hop) wie du dabei wirkst, was du dabei vermittelst ist wichtig. gutes tanzen soll ja angeblich ein zeichen für die qualitäten als liebhaber des tänzers sein, was aber fraglich ist. gute laune und fun haben zählt beim tanzen.

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:P )

. gute laune und fun haben zählt beim tanzen.

moin

so ist es!!! du kannst eigentlich der größte grobmotoriker unter der sonne sein, solange du beim antanzen (und natürlich auch davor) das breiteste grinsen aufgesetzt hast (und somit spass & freude signalisierst) sind deine chancen schon gut. besonders, wenn du vorher schon den ein oder anderen blick bekommen hast (EC !!!) ... dann nichts wie hin.. andere aufforderungen gibt es von frauen ja bekanntlich eher selten :D (bzw. zu selten um darauf zu warten B) :P )

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Naja, ich mag eher reden als antanzen oder alles auf nonverbaler ebene ist mir zu... Da fühl ich mich irgendwie so als könnte ich meine Stärken nicht ausspielen und komm vielleicht wie jeder anderer stinknormale Typ rüber. Daher werde ich mich wahrscheinlich von Discos eher fern halten oder wenn dann echt nur wegen Freunden hingehn und Spaß so haben... ohne Frauen... <_< Es sei denn es ergibt sich dann doch noch was :]

mfg, Hostile

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Naja, ich mag eher reden als antanzen oder alles auf nonverbaler ebene ist mir zu... Da fühl ich mich irgendwie so als könnte ich meine Stärken nicht ausspielen und komm vielleicht wie jeder anderer stinknormale Typ rüber. Daher werde ich mich wahrscheinlich von Discos eher fern halten oder wenn dann echt nur wegen Freunden hingehn und Spaß so haben... ohne Frauen... <_<  Es sei denn es ergibt sich dann doch noch was :]

mfg, Hostile

Awas, ne Disco ist eine der größten Herausforderungen, jetzt weißt du warum du weiter hingehst ;) . Die meisten labern Frauen nur zu und Vertrauen auf alt bekannte Ideale. Du bist aber der PIMP aus einem Guss. Du bist der perfekte Typ, der sie unterhält und sie glücklich macht. Weil du eben den Skill hast. Es gibt so viele Gebiete die man erforschen kann, du kannst aber wohl kaum alle erforschen, weil du vorher heiratest, was in der Hinsicht dein Tod ist. Du "stirbst" also bevor du alles gesehen hast. Deshalb geh jetzt raus und lern. Erinnerst du dich noch an die letzten Jahre wo du dir imemr gesagt hast "ich will 18 werden. autos, frauen und alkohol." das ging schnell bis jetzt. und da ein mann im schnitt mit 30 das erste mal beim urologen sitzt, weil seine pumpe nicht mehr richtig den schlauch aufbläst, dann sagste dir auch "mensch, hät´ ich ihn mal öfter versenkt und in der disco hätte ich genug gelegenheit gehabt."

Und bei einem Verhältnis von 7% verbaler und 93% non-verbaler Kommunikation würde ich dein Vorhaben nochmal überdenken ;)

Aktion - Reaktion - Beobachten - Aktion - Reaktion- Beobachten usw. ist sehr interessant. Versuche auch mal passiv auf der Tanzfläche zu arbeiten. Stell dich als John Travolta an den Rand und guck dir die Chicks raus. Das ist vor allem von der Mimik her sehr anspruchsvoll und vor allem: LUSTIG

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Awas, ne Disco ist eine der größten Herausforderungen, jetzt weißt du warum du weiter hingehst ;) . Die meisten labern Frauen nur zu und Vertrauen auf alt bekannte Ideale. Du bist aber der PIMP aus einem Guss. Du bist der perfekte Typ, der sie unterhält und sie glücklich macht. Weil du eben den Skill hast. Es gibt so viele Gebiete die man erforschen kann, du kannst aber wohl kaum alle erforschen, weil du vorher heiratest, was in der Hinsicht dein Tod ist. Du "stirbst" also bevor du alles gesehen hast. Deshalb geh jetzt raus und lern. Erinnerst du dich noch an die letzten Jahre wo du dir imemr gesagt hast "ich will 18 werden. autos, frauen und alkohol." das ging schnell bis jetzt. und da ein mann im schnitt mit 30 das erste mal beim urologen sitzt, weil seine pumpe nicht mehr richtig den schlauch aufbläst, dann sagste dir auch "mensch, hät´ ich ihn mal öfter versenkt und in der disco hätte ich genug gelegenheit gehabt."

Frechheit! Wer sitzt mit 30 beim Doc und lässt seinen Hosenwurm kontrollieren, weil er nicht mehr tut, wie er soll :-)

Und bei einem Verhältnis von 7% verbaler und 93% non-verbaler Kommunikation würde ich dein Vorhaben nochmal überdenken ;)

Aktion - Reaktion - Beobachten - Aktion - Reaktion- Beobachten usw. ist sehr interessant. Versuche auch mal passiv auf der Tanzfläche zu arbeiten. Stell dich als John Travolta an den Rand und guck dir die Chicks raus. Das ist vor allem von der Mimik her sehr anspruchsvoll und vor allem: LUSTIG

Aber du hast vollkommen recht damit, dass ein GROSSTEIL der Kommunikation nonverbal abläuft. Selbst bei einem Gespräch...

In einer Disco sind's halt noch ein paar wenige % mehr nonverbal.

lg scientific

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und wollt eigentlich ein paar Mädls ansprechen

aber die Musik dort war einfach überall so laut, da hätte ich wirklich schrein müssen Limiting Belief

lockt ihr sie irgendwie raus?? Ohne Anzusprechen?

Stell mir das auch ziemlich riskant wegen streitereien und so vor... Limiting Belief

Aber wichtiger ist mir das Anliegen in der Disco. Bin ernsthaft am überlegen ob ich noch in Discos gehn soll... Limiting Belief

wie sprecht ihr die da an?

Diese Frage wird nicht beantwortet, entweder du gehst raus und sprichst Frauen an, auf deine eigene Art und weisse, oder du vergisst die Lehren des Pickups ganz schnell wieder!

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Stick out your tongue, bite with your teeth on it and then smile (When you

smile you can see your tongue and your teeth).

Hmmm hört sich ja ganz gut an aber ich bin 17 und Dank eines genetischen Defekts fehlen mir 2 Zähne ;-) und eine hübsche Zahnspange ziert mein sonst doch so makelloses Antlitz und schafft 2 schöne Lücken für Zahnimplantate...Jürgen Vogel gings genau so doch der wollte wohl keine Spange :rolleyes:

Na ja mit ein bisschen improvisieren und ein bisschen Erfindertum wirds schon schiefgehen und überleben werd ichs auch ;-)

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Du bist aber der PIMP aus einem Guss. Du bist der perfekte Typ, der sie unterhält und sie glücklich macht. Weil du eben den Skill hast. Es gibt so viele Gebiete die man erforschen kann, du kannst aber wohl kaum alle erforschen, weil du vorher heiratest, was in der Hinsicht dein Tod ist

jetzt aber Schluss mit Motivationstraning hier

mir reicht schon, dass bei uns schon in jedem Club solche zig High-Energy PUAs rumlaufen und zwar ohne Plan einfach nur wie Roboter..Jungs sprechen alles an was wie Frau aussieht :-D Sowas bringt dich sicherlich nicht weiter!

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