Die 3 größten fehler, die man am Anfang machen kann Melde Dich an, um diesen Inhalt zu abonnieren 1 1

[RegularJohn 5]

1.) Zu viel Theorie. Zu viel in Foren lesen, zu viele E-Books, zu viele Videos, Podcasts und Audio Produktionen. Zu viele Informationen von unterschiedlichen Leuten, die sich gegenseitig widersprechen.

Zu viele Informationen die erst dann Sinn machen, wenn man fortgeschritten ist. Zu viele Informationen, die zu früh gehört/gelesen/geschaut die eigene Entwicklung ausbremsen.

Ich empfehle Dir, dass Du Dich immer nur mit einem Guru auseinandersetzt. Unterschiedliche Gurus haben oftmals unterschiedliche Meinungen, Ansichten und Methoden, die, wenn Du Dich mit ihnen zur selben Zeit beschäftigst, Dich lediglich verwirren und Dich daran hindern möglichst schnell nach vorne zu kommen.

Von den Gurus kann ich Dir folgende empfehlen: Brad P., bei dem ich zur Zeit übrigens eine Ausbildung mache, Captain Jack, der in meinen Augen einfach ein Genie ist, Sinn, Mehow und Lovedrop. Alle anderen Gurus kann ich zur Zeit nicht empfehlen.

Wenn Du zu Anfang kostenloses Material suchst, dann kannst Du Dir mein Buch runterladen.

2.) Das so genannte „Innergame“ wie z.B. NLP, EFT, Hypnosen, Chakra Meditationen etc. als AUSREDE nutzen, um nicht rausgehen zu müssen um fremde Frauen anzusprechen und um somit die Mechanismen und die Werkzeuge der Verführung zu lernen.

Es ist ein Irrglaube anzunehmen, dass man einen konstanten, wiederholbaren Erfolg mit hübschen Frauen erzielen kann, wenn man NUR an seinem Innergame arbeitet. Dass das wahr ist kann man ganz leicht überprüfen indem man sich die besten Verführer der Welt anschaut: Keiner von ihnen hat sich nur auf sein Innergame beschränkt und so wichtige Dinge wie: Storytelling, Frames setzen, Rapport-Brechen, Kleidung, Stimme u.a. einfach ignoriert!

Letzten Endes entfacht man ein Feuer immer noch dadurch, dass man ein Feuerzeug und Benzin benutzt und nicht indem man vor trockenem Holz anfängt zu meditieren.

Mal im Ernst: Klar, Innergame ist wichtig und mit Sicherheit beschleunigt es auch die persönliche Entwicklung, hin zu einem guten Verführer, aber die radikale Aussage: „All game is innergame“ ignoriert ganz einfach, dass mehr dazu gehört um konstante und wiederholbare Erfolge mit Frauen erzielen zu können.

Die Aussage: „All game is innergame“ ist genau so limitierend als würde jemand sagen: „All game is outergame“.

3.) Durch Verführungsprodukte und diverse Theorien merkwürdig werden. Dieses Phänomen passiert leider viel zu häufig und auch ich bin am Anfang durch diverse Produkte und Theorien zu einem merkwürdigen Typen geworden.

Wenn Du ernsthaft daran interessiert bist im deutschsprachigen Raum attraktive Frauen zu verführen, dann ist es super wichtig, dass die Frauen, sofort schon wenn sie Dich warnehmen, ein gutes Gefühl haben was Deine Person anbelangt.

Das bedeutet, dass Du den Frauen keine Angst machst, dass Du selbstsicher bist, dass die Frauen nicht befürchten müssen, dass Du sie zu Tode langweilen wirst, dass Du nicht als Freak rüberkommst, dass Du gepflegt bist, dass Du soziale Intelligenz beweist...

Im Englischen würde man vereinfacht sagen: "Don´t be creepy!"

Kannst Du Dich mit fremden Frauen für 5 Minuten ganz normal unterhalten? Stell Dir vor Du sprichst fremde Frauen an und nach ca. 5 Minuten käme ein Freund von Dir an und würde sie nach ihrem Eindruck von Dir fragen. Was würden sie wohl antworten? Würden sie dann so etwas wie: Sympathisch, freundlich, cool oder so gar sexy antworten, oder würden sie dann so etwas wie: Freak, Nerd, kindisch, unheimlich, langweilig, Spinner und unsympathisch antworten?

Probiere es selber aus! Ich empfehle Dir, dass Du die beschriebenen Werkzeuge und Techniken und Routinen der Verführung, des einen Gurus Deiner Wahl, erst dann lernst und benutzt, wenn Du diesen dritten Punkt gemeistert hast.

Das waren meiner Meinung nach die 3 größten Fehler, die man am Anfang machen kann. Ich hoffe, dass ich Dir neue Einsichten und Lösungen bieten konnte.

LG

RJ

[Eye.Catcher 2]

1.) Zu viel Theorie. Zu viel in Foren lesen, zu viele E-Books, zu viele Videos, Podcasts und Audio Produktionen.

Ich lese gerade das Buch Outliers von Malcolm Gladwell (sehr empfehlenswert übrigens). Er beschreibt, Studien haben ergeben es koste im Schnitt 10,000 Stunden Übung um etwas bis in die Perfektion zu beherrschen, egal das Themengebiet, und egal wer du bist. Er fand in seine Untersuchungen kein einziger Fall, in dem jemand mit 7,000 Stunden Übung dasselbe Ergebnis erziehlte als jemand der 10,000 Stunden geübt hat (soweit 'Begabung'). Hierunter gehören u.a. Mozart, The Beatles und einige wichtige CEOs sowie Fußballstars.

VG,

E.C

[Cudi 1]

1.) Zu viel Theorie. Zu viel in Foren lesen, zu viele E-Books, zu viele Videos, Podcasts und Audio Produktionen.

Er beschreibt, Studien haben ergeben es koste im Schnitt 10,000 Stunden Übung um etwas bis in die Perfektion zu beherrschen, egal das Themengebiet, und egal wer du bist.

Es bedarf aber der Praxis. Schwimmen hast du doch auch nicht durch Bücher gelernt oder?

Nein du wurdest ins kalte Wasser gestoßen und langsam herangeführt. Praktisch.

Und so sollte es bei PU auch sein.

Die Aussage: „All game is innergame“ ist genau so limitierend als würde jemand sagen: „All game is outergame“.

Auch ein sehr wichtiger Punkt. Es ist egal ob du der Selbstbewussteste und Selbstsicherste Typ der Welt bist - wenn du keine Kommunikationsskills hast, dann hast du keine. Die bringt dir auch noch so viel Innergame nicht.

Also bei beiden Punkten immer schön auf die richtige Mischung achten: Kalibriere dich.

[abuelito 2]

Der grösste Fehler den man IMO machen kann ist Dogmen welcher Art auch immer anzuhängen.

Es gibt keine unumstösslichen Wahrheiten die für alle gelten und die immer richtig sind. Flexibel sein, emphatisch und experimentierfreudig oder zumindest nicht ängstlich.

Es geht nichts über eigene Erfahrungen, alles angelesene oder sonstwie aus zweiter Hand konsumierte Material bringt nicht halb so viel wie selbst gelebtes Leben.

cheers.

[ripperOne 1]

1.) Zu viel Theorie. Zu viel in Foren lesen, zu viele E-Books, zu viele Videos, Podcasts und Audio Produktionen. Zu viele Informationen von unterschiedlichen Leuten, die sich gegenseitig widersprechen.

Hier muss man eigentlich nur die richtigen Quellen wählen. Das Internet sollte man komplett meiden !

Bücher können zb nicht von irgendwelchen dahergelaufenen kommentiert werden und in frage gestellt werden, so behält man das vertrauen, dass einem der author vermittelt hat.

[godlike 2]

Ich habe in letzter Zeit mal einen guten Post von Razorjack gelesen. Der Text ist zwar schon ein wenig älter, trifft den Nagel meiner Meinung nach aber auf Kopf.

Viel Spaß beim Lesen...

Howdy boys!

OK playas, this is from my experience after the trip to London and meeting up

with the RSD crew as well as Loverboy, Richie, Dino and a few other PUAs.

During my trip, I realized that a lot of the inexperienced guys all have pretty

much the same problems and make the same mistakes.

Here’s a list of the most obvious ones and IMO how to solve them:

Common mistake #1: Approaching for the sake of approaching

This is where guys approach every chick that they see just for the sake of

approaching her. I mean they don’t feel any real attraction for her, they only

approach cuz they don’t want to be looked down on by the “community”. Seems

like a lot of the guys feel like they have to approach EVERY decent looking

chick to be considered a PUA. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This is OK if you’re out doing boot camp or trying to get over your fear of

approaching, etc. But I’ve seen this from guys who have no fear of approaching

at all. And they approach and approach and approach, etc. I swear I’ve seen

guys approach more chicks in 1 day than I approach in an entire month. AT THE

MOST I’LL approach 7-10 chicks a week, over 2 nights of sarging, that’s all I

need.

I know, I know “But Razorjack, your game is much more efficient than most of

the guys on this board!”

This is true, but DON’T MISS THE VITAL POINT! There is a reason WHY my game is

more efficient! And here it is:

When a guy approaches this fucking much, it becomes routine and mundane. He

becomes an APPROACH ROBOT that feels absolutely NOTHING for the chick he’s

gaming. Then all of a sudden, you come across like a sleazy used-car salesman

trying to get rid of a piece of shit on wheels to the next available customer.

He doesn’t give a shit who that customer is or what the customer wants etc. If

you were the customer, would you want to buy a car from a guy who treats you

like this?

Now put yourself in the chick’s shoes. And if I notice this from observation,

don’t you guys think that the chicks you’re approaching notice this as well??!!

Then guess what? It doesn’t matter how many routines, tricks, C&F, disinterest,

gimmicks, etc you throw out, you don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.

Solution:

Be GENUINELY attracted to a chick before approaching. I’m talking about

actually allowing yourself to FEEL something for the chick.

OK, I know there are A LOT of guys here that used to be or still are AFCs and I

know that a lot of guys, including my self, that have been rejected, hurt,

humiliated, heart-broken, etc after having developed feelings for a chick. And

so there is a natural fear of “opening” up that part of you that actually feels

something for chicks. So what happens is, that FEAR causes guys to close

themselves off from feeling anything for chicks.

And guys, don’t start ranting about how it’s not about fear and chicks want

“Alpha” guys that aren’t into them, etc. Unless you’re interested in a few

LSE/psycho chicks, then it’s nothing but a bunch of keyboard jockeying, mental

masturbating, seducing from the armchair bullshit. Trust me on this guys, I’ve

been out in the field and actually TRIED to PU like this.

BTW, I’m not saying that you should go head over heels over a chick, develop

one-itis, etc.

You have to find a balance here, you feel enough to be genuine and at the same

time not ashamed of expressing your desires as a man, but you don’t go

overboard by supplicating, kissing ass, etc for a chick who hasn’t done

anything for you other than look good. This comes with experience, but just

like every other aspect of the game, IT CAN BE PRACTICED AND ACHIEVED!

Common mistake #2: Not knowing where to take the PU or what to do next.

You guys know what I’m talking about. How many of you guys approach chicks,

open the set and have no idea what to do or say next? Has this ever happened to

you?

Razorjack raises his hand. Yes boys I’ve been there myself and believe it or

not, the solution here is REALLY simple!

Solution:

GOALS!!!! Have both long-term goals and short-term goals!

Long term goals are stuff like what you want to do with your life, what type of

chicks you want, how you want to interact with chicks, what you would like to

do with chicks, etc. Read my posts “How do YOU want to PU?” and “Make PU a Part

of You/Being One With Your Game.” This shit isn’t easy, but I can’t stress the

importance of this. This is hard work but I can promise you it’s worth the

effort! This is where the essence of self-confidence comes from.

Short-term goals are stuff like, what it is you want with a particular chick

before you approach: #close, day2 meet-up, fclose, etc.

Yeah, here it comes!

“Razorjack, how the hell is this shit supposed to help us PU chicks now??!!”

Easy boys! Now instead of trying to come with a clever C&F statement or running

a pointless routine, you now have something to FOCUS on!

Here’s an example:

I got in touch with Loverboy before my trip to London and he got us on a few

guest lists for the more exclusive nightclubs. Nice work LB! But some of the

clubs wanted 50/50 ratios of guys and chicks, ie we needed to bring chicks with

us.

So we decided to pick up chicks on the street and get them to come with us. So

LB, Richie, Dino and me are walking around in a plaza, don’t remember the name.

We spot a tent set up for selling PC games. There were these 2 HOT model chicks

giving away t-shirts. Clearly these chicks are there to get computer geeks to

come in and try the games.

Anyways LB, Richie and Dino go in and start talking to the chicks first. I

don’t think it’s going anywhere so I decided to go in. Now keep in mind that my

goal with these chicks is to #close them and get them to come with us to a

night club the next night. Now my goal is all that I’m focused on from the

opener to close:

RJ(smiling): Man, you 2 look like the biggest computer geeks I’ve ever seen!

HB1(both HBs smiling back): Yes we are!

HB2: Yeah, we can’t get enough of these games!

RJ: I bet! You know I love your British accents!

HB1: Thanks! So where are you from?

RJ: Well I live in Sweden but I’m originally an American.

HB2: Yeah, I thought you sounded like a yank!

RJ(laughing): Yeah I know we’re all idiots and assholes!

HB2: No, I really like yanks! They’re great!

Razorjack slides his arm around HB2’s waist right in front of everybody there!

RJ(smiling): Oh really! You’re like my new best friend here in London!

Dino(joking): Hey Razorjack, I think she likes you!

The chick doesn’t say anything, but just smiles. OK now only 2 minutes have

gone by and all I did up to this point was just get the chicks comfortable with

me talking to them. Now here’s where I start going in for the close.

RJ: Hey listen, I’m only a tourist here for a few days. What would you

recommend I see and do?

HB1: Bla bla

RJ: OK cool! My buddy LB has gotten me on the guest list for this club XXX

tomorrow. Have you 2 ever been there?

HB2: Yeah that’s a pretty good place. You should also check out xxxx.

HB1: Yeah I also like club YYYY.

RJ: So you think club XXX is definitely worth checking out?

HB2: Oh yeah, totally.

RJ: OK, I’ll definitely go then. Here’s the deal I heard that we’re suppose to

have a 50/50 ratio of guys and girls when we get there. Why don’t you 2 join me

tomorrow and show me what London is all about!

HB2: Yeah, sure!

Razorjack whips out his cell phone!

RJ: OK so give me your number and we’ll get in touch tomorrow.

HB2: Oh! I can’t give my number out to a stranger!

RJ(smiling): Of course you can’t! You can never trust strangers! So give me

your number and I’ll get in touch with you tomorrow!

HB2(smiling): No, how about if we meet you there instead.

RJ: Oh c’mon! If you 2 can’t make it tomorrow then I’m screwed!

HB2: OK why don’t you give me your number and I’ll call you.

RJ(smiling): Yeah right! You think I’m gonna give MY number out to a

stranger??!! You could be a psycho stalker for all I know!

Both HBs are laughing now! Now Razorjack goes in for the kill!

HB2: Why don’t you guys just go and meet girls on the street and ask them to

join you.

RJ(smiling): Well what the hell do you think I’m doing NOW??!!

HB2(joking): OK, I’ll give you my boyfriend’s number!

RJ(joking back): Great! I’ll let him know that you thought I was cute and that

me and him would be perfect for each other! Although my gf probably wouldn’t

appreciate it!

HB2(laughing): No! Don’t do that!

RJ(joking around): OK then give me YOUR number so I can post it all over the

internet!

HB2(laughing and shaking her head): No I can’t do that!

RJ(laughing): Hey if you’re expecting me to get your number and stalk you

long-distance from Sweden, then don’t hold your breath! I did that once and it

nearly bankrupted my ass!

HB2(laughing): Yeah I bet it did!

RJ(smiling): Hey look, if you’re not gonna give me your number then give me a

FAKE number!

HB2(shocked look on her face): Are you serious? You want a FAKE number?

RJ(smiling): Sure why not! You chicks give out fake numbers all the time!

HB2(still shocked): I don’t believe you! You really want a FAKE number?

RJ(smiling): No of course not silly! I want your REAL number, but I don’t want

to stand out here all day begging for it. Look, I’m only gonna send ONE SMS

tomorrow and if you wanna come with us, then comes with us. If you can’t make

it then just say so and I’ll find some other chicks go with us.

Here I give her my cell and she puts in a number. Now remember guys I hadn’t

even asked these chicks what their names are. I get my phone back and ask her

what her name is. She tells me and I type it in.

I never SMS:ed the chicks the next day so I can’t be sure if the number was

real or not, but the name she gave me was definitely real. Don’t ask me how I

know, I just do!

Anyways the whole point here is that I was focused on my goal of getting a

#close the whole time from the opener to the close. Everything I did before

getting the actual number was just working towards my goal!

Common mistake #3: Playing the disinterest game with the wrong type of chicks

OK, I’ve seen a lot of guys do this. Here’s one example:

On the way home after the RSD workshop, I was on a bus along with some of the

students that took the workshop. Anyways this one student spots a chick getting

on at a stop. This chick sits down in the empty seat next to me, while the

student is sitting across from her. Anyways this chick isn’t the type that gets

hit on a lot, she looks OK but you can tell she isn’t the party type.

So anyways this student opens her and starts running his routines, negging her,

saying shit like she and him could never be a couple, etc. Anyways this chick

barely says a word after getting negged, being disqualified, etc. Now guess

what happened after that?

That’s right! Absolutely NOTHING! The student painted himself in a corner by

disqualifying her and him self. The chick isn’t the party type that would all

of a sudden start chasing him and he couldn’t show interest in her now, without

looking like an idiot. So this PU went NOWHERE!

Sound familiar fellas?

Solution:

I would advise staying away from the disinterest thing altogether. But if you

absolutely must do the disinterest thing, make sure that you do it on the party

type of chick that is used to being hit on by guys. Also make sure she is

ATTRACTED or at least INTRIGUED by you before taking it too far.

Common mistake #4: Starting the interaction in the “wrong” direction

Everybody says that openers don’t matter. Actually if you read about my method,

I even wrote this and it’s true openers really don’t matter when we’re talking

about opening sets.

But let’s be honest boys! Our goal with PU isn’t just to open sets, our goals

are to fuck chicks and have MLTRs with bisexual chicks, etc. Yummmmm, bisexual

chicks…..

Wait those are my goals! Sorry guys I got carried away here for a second!

Seriously boys, let’s talk about efficiency. A geography example:

Let’s say you’re traveling from New York to California. What direction would

you drive?

I know this sounds like a silly question, but believe me if you compare this to

PU, some guys will use openers that actually start them in a direction towards

New England! Obviously the most efficient direction would be to start driving

towards California, but hell it would even be more efficient to start out

towards Florida than New England! For those of you unfamiliar with US

geography, I’m talking about starting out in the exact opposite direction of

where your final destination is.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Believe me there are guys out there doing this

and they don’t even notice it!

Here’s an example:

We’re out during the daytime in London trying to PU chicks to come with us to

the nightclubs where we were on the guest list. Two chicks stop pretty close to

us, giving us blatant IOIs. I let the guys know and tell them to approach.

One of the guys pulls out his cell phone and opens the 2-set by showing them

pictures with his phone. The routine is good and it works, both chicks laugh

and he busts the set wide open.

But the routine is flawed in this case! Cuz now I’m watching him and he’s been

gaming these chicks for about 5 minutes and they look like they’re about to

leave. I’m standing about 5 meters away and having a hard time containing

myself. He needs to close and needs to do it fast! Well a couple of minutes

later the chicks say that they have to go and leave. No number close.

So this dude comes back and I ask him what happened. He tells me that he opened

using the phone and showing them pictures of 2 chicks and asking them which

chick is prettier. After they answer he asked them which one they think was the

transvestite. They laughed and said they hoped it wasn’t the one they picked.

He then told them that both chicks were transvestites! Funny stuff!

But now the problem! Then he talked about phones or transvestites or something

like that. I then ask him why didn’t he close them when they were about to

leave. His answer:

“I couldn’t think of a natural way to switch immediately into asking them to go

with us to the night clubs! It would have felt awkward to close then!”

Guess what? He started the PU in the WRONG direction!

Solution:

Think about where you want to go before approaching! What is your goal with

this particular chick/set?

Now I asked this guy to imagine the same scenario with these chicks, but this

time he instead opens them by asking their opinion about a particular

nightclub. He would have started the PU in exactly the right direction! Then

the close would have been a natural occurrence!

This is the same thing for you guys starting off a PU with disinterest,

gimmicks and stuff. Obviously you’re going to have to show interest in the

chick if anything is to happen and sure you can achieve this by starting with

disinterest, etc. But if you start off with disinterest you’re leaving yourself

a lot of work to do: from disinterested to neutral to interested and at the

same time REMAINING CONGRUENT!

All of a sudden you’re giving yourself the tiniest margins for error and this

is where I’ve seen a lot of guys blow a PU! Really, guys that do this are

making things much more complicated and difficult than necessary.

Common mistake #5: Being emotionally closed off

I’ve seen guys approach and game chicks without expressing any emotion what so

ever. No enthusiasm, no vibrancy, no charisma, no passion, no excitement, no

nothing! It looks so robotic and unnatural that chicks actually find it creepy.

What’s funny is that a lot of the guys doing this don’t even realize it! How

much pussy do you think these guys are getting? That’s right! A BIG FAT ZERO!

Solution:

This is fucking simple boys! You need to understand what chicks want! Chicks

want passion, excitement, romance, adventure, etc. They basically want to be

swept away into the whole full-blown romantic fantasy!

This involves emotion! Go out and start living life passionately! Stop playing

the PC games, get off the chat boards, pick your ass up and go bungy jumping!

Or climb a mountain! Or take up skydiving or surfing! Or travel around the

world! Try new foods or take salsa lessons! Find new exciting hobbies and live

life instead of letting it pass you by!

Common mistake #6: Not observing and acknowledging the chick’s reactions

Example:

I was hanging out with the boys in London and talking about my more direct

style. One of the guys wants to try it.

He approaches a nice-looking chick and tells her that she’s beautiful and wants

to get to know her. She looks at him strangely and seems stunned. The guy is

totally stumped, he has no idea what to do next and it goes nowhere.

So what did he do wrong?

Solution:

First of all, he didn’t really feel anything for the chick, he was only trying

out direct game! He came across as insincere and sounded like he does that to

every chick he sees. Refer to Common mistake #1.

But even in spite of that, he could have turned it around. How? By observing

and acknowledging her reactions!

I observed that she didn’t believe that he was sincere and genuine when he said

that. If he would have just said “You know you look like you don’t believe me.

Why wouldn’t you believe that a guy can find you beautiful and want to get to

know you? My name is Razorjack, what’s your name?”

Then start up the kino and screen her!

Common mistake #7: Never coming out of “indirect” mode – Blindly throwing out

routine after routine

I’ve seen guys doing this and let me tell you it just looks FUCKING pathetic.

This is where guys learn so many routines and when they PU, the only thing they

do is spit out routine after routine. It basically looks like a chicken running

around in circles after getting it’s head chopped off.

Basically these guys are running around in circles wasting time and energy on

the their routines and NOT GETTING ANY CLOSER TO THE LAY!

Solution:

This is a combination of a lot of things IMO. First of all they feel like they

need to keep spitting out routines to keep chicks interested. They also think

they need to keep talking cuz any uncomfortable silence might blow the set.

Also they believe that they need to “trick” chicks into sex by running

routines, cuz they think doing that will attract the chicks rather than being

who they really are.

If this is you, then go back re-read this post and do ALL OF THE ABOVE!

Peace brothas!

-Razorjack