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Hi everyone, I come from Italy and I've just registered here because I have a concern about how girls are viewed in Germany and the relationiships with them from a German point of view.

I would love if you guys could write in english if you know it. Hopefully this is the right place to post the thread on.

In Italy girls and women have lot of mental stupid stuff, preconceptions about men and they usually act like princesses, since they know they could potentially have many men under their belt.

I'm talking about relationships and love, but also in the average "pick up" situation, where a man likes a woman. A little bit of culture, a little bit of strict religion, and their brains here are fucked.

Also, I was talking to a person that I know and he thinks that girls are like that in Italy because men don't have access to sex like in Germany, or in Switzerland, so italian guys kind of "beg" for sex and women really hate it, of course. Whereas in Germany, since they know that men have free access to sex, women are more open minded and they don't act like that way.

This kind of popular in my country.

Of course, if you meet them in a club or especially if you say that you are from another country, you will always be welcomed. 

I'm asking to know if it's true the idea that that guy has about relationships with women in a country where sex is liberal, and if you can really love them, and what you guys talk in your country regarding women.

Thank you.

 

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I don't think that's really a topic for the expert area. 

You can hear the exact same bullshit about German/Swiss/Austrian women-men-relationships in Germany/Switzerland/Austria. If you want a funny fact: Italian girls are considered as more open minded here than local girls. Why? Because they are on vacation and can act more free. No social restrictions. Her friends won't judge her. Hey, you are allowed to do everything on your vacation.

As soon as they move here they are cautious about who says what about her. Her open mindness begins to disappear. Let me guess you can observe the same thing in Italy.

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Make your own experiences. Women in Germany are pretty liberal and you may approach them via more traditional night- or social circle game or via direct game.

Depending on where you want to meet women bigger cities and subsequently their highly frquented social hubs are good for Daygame. The 'German' German women arent accustomed to eg Daygame and might be intimidated when you open them directly.

That was my subjective experience but i know ppl that had very different experiences. Foreign girls arent really a rarity in Ger, specially in bigger cities so you can mix things up. Approach different types of women.

While women in France are said to be overgamed, women in Ger might be confused or intimidated if you just approach then during the day but because virtually no men here approaches directly you can also impress women by gaming differently than the majority of guys who prefer og or nightgame or sc-game.

Women here like your initiative. If you like to take initiative youll have a good time in ger

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Hey,  thanks for all your answers. I got some new insights for practical matters.

However, I didn't mean more open minded or bitchy, if you want to. It's more a theorical and societal point of view that I would like to dig into.

My questions was related to the fact that sex is liberal in your country, you don't have the Christian religion, and in your type of society (which I really respect) german guys have potentially the opportunity to have sex with beautiful girls in a liberal way, so for girls this could be viewed as "Hey, this man can potentially fuck as many beautiful girls as he wants, let me be less pushy and bitchy (mentally), and let me keep him".

The fact that girls are easier when travelling is usually true, but my question was not about that.

It was more regarding what kind of relationship german men establish with women in the long term, if more relaxed, lovely, and if german women have less mental bullshits and thorougly enjoy the relationships, also due to the fact that if women act stupidly, they know that sex is easily accessible and they can fuck off.

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Germany is pretty liberal while still - on some levels - leaning towards more conservative notions.

Youll have traditional long term monogamous relationships and also ppl that just wanne date and have fun.

But im not sure i fully understand your question.

 

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I will try to explain it better. This is a hard topic even to say in Italian, so I can understand it could be difficult to get. Hopefully this is the right time.

Due to the typical mindset in Italy, which is based on religion, a close mind towards sexuality, and so on and so forth, women tend to act bitchy and they have lots of mental pitfalls, lots of bullshits in their mind regarding love, so they shit-test men continuously even without reasons about stupid problems that come up in their minds. 

They know that even though they treat men badly for no reason, they will always have someone who is going to lick their feet because men are "needy" for sex.

That's because I guess sex is not liberal as in Germany.

 

In Germany, where sex is liberal and people have liberal access to it (prostitution is not legal in Italy), it should be easier to have a stable relationship without many downs due to women lack of mental stability.

Because they know that if they act like Italian girls, in the long term men have different choices and it's not like here, where if you lose a girl, then you have to go hunting again, so ppl prefer to put their heads down and suffer, just because they don't wanna lose the hole to fuck or to get another psycho girl.

 

I'm trying to understand if my thesis is right, so I wanna know if you guys have good and healthy relationships with german girls, who are not mentally overwhelmed by needy men trying to get their pussies, but they know that men have legal access to sex, so they try to "keep" the man without being stupid and pushy for no reason.

 

You don't beg pussy, since if you want to fuck you have easy and very good access to it.

At the same time you should be more relaxed for this reason.

Women know that and they don't stress since they know that they can fuck themselves if they do it unusefully.

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You are addressing multiple issues and dimensions.

First of all, it is next to impossible not to be influenced by your subjective experiences.

We are what we have experienced, which greatly contributes to what we think and feel. So in your case, should you have encountered women which more or less fit the apparently troubled description you offered then it is unsurprising that your view of italian women is rather negative. While outlining Italian women you also detailed men's behavior.

You basically picture Italian men as desperate, über-needy, intimidated and whiney.

If men would actually really do feel exactly as you described, they would be so heavily intimidated, confused, desperate and prolly scared, that they would hold women on pedestals as high as the infamous Olymp which no mortal shall ever reach.

It would be easier to put this/your perception into perspective, if you talk about your own personal experiences.

Tell us about what kind of women you like.

How you flirted with them in the past. When and how did you meet women and for how long and on what level were you connected to them.

How do you meet women in Italy?

I mean you personally but also men in general.

I heard a few times that Italian women are passionate, emotional, beautiful and desireable.

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I'm just reporting what the experience of different men is, in my social life as well as from an Italian forum of seduction.

My personal experience is rather positive, I'm good looking, I have money, I'm quite intelligent, I don't have problems.

At least, knowing that I have value, if a girl is bitchy with me even in the approach phase, in the post-sex phase or whatever phase of the relationship might be, I go away without hurting knowing that the sea is full of fishes to catch.

But that's what I don't understand, why they try to shit-test, to hurt, to have pitfalls of jealousy, of being "princesses", a series of mental problems which are not useful in a relationship with a man, just because they have the pussy and they can be in charge of becoming in this way. I'm not talking about all of them. A good part of them.

I wanted to understand if it's just my point of view, or if this doesn't happen in Germany, I repeat, a country where sex is liberal, they shouldn't stress out men and where knowing a girl and love in genera should be more fluid, since sex is accessible not just from them as in Italy, but from beautiful professional women as well.

 

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