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[Professeur de Magie 0]

I'm not exactly sure how I'm going to be able to translate what's going on in my head right now into writing, because it barely makes sense in there, but I'm going to give it a shot nevertheless.

After another night out in Munich and sarging until 6am doing club games, I have stumbled across a rather significant roadblock as I tried to debrief the evening. I did my usual club opening; went in and rooted myself in 3 or 4 large social groups, then walked around and made sure everyone knows I'm there by patting this one over here on the shoulder or offering a couple quick words to that set over there. By the time I've finished my first round, roughly 40% of the club has had direct contact with me, and I would say another 30% of the club knows that I exist, so 70% of the club is aware of my presence, and this was a packed as hell club where you can barely walk without shoving people.

After my routine opening, I began opening female sets. Throughout the course of the night, roughly 30 girls were opened, 8 of which I could have pulled for a same nighter, and at least 15 I could have KC-ed. As I'm making my round opening people, I made a hobby out of leaving either my 2 PUA wings (PUAno0b and...sry buddy forgot your name "red cap") behind to entertain the set I've opened while I excuse myself to open more groups. Once both my PUA buddies were occupied, since the rate at which sets are getting opened exceed the ability 2 people may entertain, I started grabbing AFC's that look like they could use a little help getting hooked up with girls and introducing them to my sets. This way, not only can I open sets more rapidly, I can also leave a wake of DHV by merging random sets and making sure that EVERYBODY knows me.

Now this is where I got stuck. 7 of the girls that I opened followed me throughout the club for the entire course of the evening. I mean, for 3 straight hours, I was accompanied by a combination of 2 or 3 sets of girls that I opened. And while the attraction is beyond blatant, I could not bring myself to identify a target. The best way I can describe this is I guess going hunting with an AK-47. Since I didn't know what my target was, I just sprayed bullets (negs/loops) at everyone, and they all got hit. Eventually, I ended up having this entourage of girls that were openly discussing how I'm the most interesting person in the club, and "sexy as hell" too (I kid you not this discussion took place, PUAno0b heard the good majority of it too while I pretended like I couldn't understand German). While I know this should be a huge ego boost, I couldn't help but feel a little part of me dying inside, and this is the part where I don't understand, and I hope you guys can give me some insight. I got REALLY turned off by the whole sarging thing. I don't know why. I felt dirty. I thought I've prevented this "guilty" feeling by promising myself not to call any girls I get numbers for, and since I've made this promise, I don't ask girls for their numbers. Somehow, I ended up having to delete 7 new numbers from my phone while I was waiting for my train home.

I don't even understand why I felt dirty, but I instantly felt disgusting. Since I'm not going out with the intention of getting laid (I usually get "lucky" once or twice a month anyway without having to put in all the effort in opening strangers and staying out until 6am in my AFC days (up until 2 weeks ago), my greatest source of motivation for sarging, thus far, has been the attention of the groups I command. It's almost as if I'm receiving some kind of validation that I do not quite understand when I enter a set and dominate the frames of the people I encounter by adding value in the form of fascination and entertainment. While I am ultimately successful at accomplishing this, I can't help but feel hollow and un-genuine inside since I wouldn't plan on laying 99% of the sets I open.

At this point, I don't even know WTF I'm doing anymore. On one hand, I'm telling myself that I have to become a mPUA because throughout the course of my life, I have encountered two women whom I failed to have a relationship with because in my AFC ways, I one-itis-ed the shit out of them and they both projected me as their best friend, and "couldn't possibly risk the possibility of losing me as their best friend by attempting a sexual relationship". And I don't know if you guys have felt this, but it's like getting your testicles ripped out by a flaming hot poker, but the worst part was, I couldn't even logically identify the reason why this happened until now. I've never had problem scoring women I don't care for. But after learning about the community, I started realizing all the things I did wrong in both these situations and decided to get good enough at the game such that this could never happen again. But now I'm having doubts.

Maybe I shouldn't be doing this?

Maybe all these mind fucks should never be taught?

Maybe what I'm doing is completely evil and I'm actually scarring people for life with this shit?

I don't know anymore, but the worst part is, I can't even go back to my AFC days anymore. I cannot talk to a woman without having a flow chart of "how to get her naked within the next hour" flying across my cerebral cortex. I can't talk to a guy without displaying dominance over him. I mean, I fucking AMOGGED five Turkish body builders that were in the German army in order to impress a five set for god's sake! WTF was I thinking? these guys could have gutted me in the blink of an eye, and there I was, teasing them about how retardedly bulky they were (these guys were built like a fucking brick shit-house) to girls I don't even know!

This whole PUA thing is getting out of control. I'm buying into my own frame so much, that I find it almost impossible to even pick out a target out of the clubs I open because I've convinced myself that I have such great pre-selection that none of the girls I've opened are good enough, so I open more girls, and the cycle continues and eventually I've opened everyone. In order to generate greater social proof, I'm fucking AMMOG-ing everyone, even guys that could easily rip me a new asshole.

I don't know guys, anyone else out there experience this? This feeling is so weird I don't even know how to explain it.

[PrimedApe 2]

w.t.f are u posting in 2 Forums? ;)

Seriously: I thought that might happen some Day to you. I think i know that u are pretty new in the Game, right?

You were sarging because u wanted more selfconsciusness, more girls, more party, more everything, and now u overdid it.

U are pretty good. but you are doing it for the wrong reasons.

You dont have to open a whole club. If you open the whole club and jump around to meet everybody, you are becoming the Partymonkey and everybody likes you. Thats fun for the Moment, but it doesnt halp you at all once you leave the club.

Focus on fewer peaple, fewer girls. Escalate, but bring some emotion into it. Dont be focused on outcome. Dont do it for the Sex, do it for doing it :)

Sounds weird. Appreciate what u are doing right now!

Figure out what you want for yourself and dont reach for goals, that some other dude on the internet has.

Some peaple love being the Partymonkey. Seems, as you need something else. Go find out what it is, and than work for that goal.

You did what many newbies do. You want what others have (or say they have), because it sounds cool. But its not what you actually want, just what the Community forces you to want.

Meh whatever, my english sucks as always. I hope you stoll get the point.

So Long

Alex

[Professeur de Magie 0]

yeah, I get ya.

My goal originally was essentially self improvement. I want the skill set necessary to stop the perfect girl when she comes along dead on her tract, and make her mine. I'm just getting an overwhelming feeling for how diabolically well the "art" is working now that I'm consciousness aware of it. I mean, I sarge without any canned material and has been subconsciously AMMOGing people since my AFC days, but for some reason, even some of the PUA's from the Munich lair feels their frame challenged by me. They think that because I apparently "AMMOGed" a fellow PUA, I am a social robot. And that's not what I want. Robots are supposed to be artificial and unnatural. I'm just an Asian kid in a funny Bavarian hat with an amplified ego...

[PrimedApe 2]

well, as i understand it, you are pretty aggressive in your social behaviour.

Anyone who could become a Problem will be AMOGed preventively.

That scares some people, and it should scare you too.

Youve got the skills and you just blast them out there. I thing when you use them a little more subtle, it will go more fluently, smoothely and you wont feel like brainwashing people.

Keyword is "calibration". Dont only calibrate on girls u want to hit on, but also your whole environment. Fellow PUAs, AMOGs, AFCs and also the whole situation.

Try to make everybody feel good, even when you AMOG tehm. Maybe that'll help :)

[blade_runner 8]

in what club have you been in munich?

my advice: stop sarging for a while!

just go out to a club with friends (non PU friends) an

don't talk to any foreigner.

do this for about a week and then slowly reactivate your

pu skills like opening 1 set a evening ...