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Thanks! I might be able to come around for an hour or two. I've got a friend from Regensburg possibly coming around in the afternoon and then at 1900 I've got a day3 coming to meet me (future LR on that coming soon) Yeah I know I should be speaking German, and I can probably say all that in really really bad German. But if you want me to say it accurately and correctly, for now it'll have to be in English. My bad :( You're right. Good thing is, she obviously likes me, otherwise she would have just flaked me.

ok this is weird. just got a call from her apologizing for not replying, saying she doesn't have time to meet me at noon, but we could meet later tomorrow night. like booty call hours (11pm). no shit...

So for those of you who don't know, I had a day 2 with an HB 10 last week. A bit of recap: - Completely random and exciting meet on the train. There was an accident and we all had to wait outside on the platform for like 40 minutes. That's where I approached her. - Little to no kino from me. She kept getting phone calls on her phone, telling the person she'll be late, and eventually not answering at all * - She suggested we grab a coffee at a nearby place she knew while we waited. The place was full so we went back to the banhof. - She got a call from whomever saying they'll be there to pick her up, so I number closed, hugged her, got on my train and left. Wrote her a message right away saying the conductor is making us wait on the platform for another 20 minutes for something stupid, but it was nice to randomly meet her like that. - She answered me the next day, and again the day after that suggesting we meet after she gets out of school. - I tell her i'm only free on Wednesday, and she changes up to meet me then. - Because of a misunderstanding, she ends up waiting at the station on Wednesday for 20 minutes. By the time we link up, she's on her way home. MAD!! I apologize and suggest we meet instead on Friday, and she agrees again! * found out later this was her ex-boyfriend. she just broke up with him 4 weeks ago. So Friday at our meeting time we meet up. I'm waiting around, and she comes up to me and hugs me. I tell her I'm sorry about ditching her on Wednesday, she says it was her fault, and I'm worth coming to see again. At this point i'm super excited. It seems like I've got it. I take her to my favorite Franken restaurant, and she eats the food like a hungry hostage. I'm guessing she likes it. During the date, no kino from me. Not really. I can't incidentally kino because the way we sat at our table, I try to direct kino and she kinda moves away. I try to run some routines on her, but they don't go as well as they do with other girls. She seems really nervous. After eating we roll to the Xmas Markt here in Nuremberg and get some glu-wine, and walk to her school. I tried to hold hands, but she pulls out her phone and puts it in her hand. Confusingly enough, she switched hands after that to free up her hand again. I didn't try to hold it though. Still fluff talk, and at this point I haven't been able to kino her sexually. She keeps pulling back when I get too close, so I eventually stop trying. She shows me her school and I try to sit her down next to me, and she does for a moment, then gets back up like "would you like to go now?" She wants to go shoe shopping so we take the ubahn to Bereite Gasse and shop. She try's on stuff for me and she looks MEGA hot. I'm getting really turned on at this point, but I think I was the only one. LOL Besides the over-kino, here's where I think I started to fuck up. At this point she's telling me she has to meet her girlfriends soon. I ask her what she'd like to do now and she doesn't know. I knew that if I didn't try to sexually escalate things then this would be my last date with her, or next time I'd be her shopping friend or something. I told her I know a place she'd like (knowing it was my apartment) and took her straight to my apartment. I told her I left my heat on (which I actually did) and needed to turn it off. At first she's like "I'll wait downstairs" but then I told her I also had to make a quick phone call and she should just come up. She did. Upstairs she's checking out my sparsely furnished apartment. No kitchen (by choice) and my pictures all around my place. I make her some tea and we sit on my couch and talk. I've got my arm around her waste and on her legs, and she's got a hand on my knee. I go back to an escalation game I played on her earlier which involved me kissing her neck and ear, which I did. She seemed to like it, because she smiled :) Then I went in for the kiss, and she turned her head away. D'oh!! I turned my body away from her, BUT I apologized for trying to kiss her. I told her that in America guys are a lot more aggressive and it's totally a cultural thing (which is not always true, but I don't think she knew). It was my mistake. She's like "no no, it's ok" and we go back to hands on the legs. She says "i think you have a crush on me" and smiles. She's like "let's talk a little. tell me about your family" or something, which I did. But she's also drinking her tea really nervously, like she doesn't know what to talk about. I can't remember exactly, but I think I tried to kiss her again. Anyway, we ended up just hugging really really tightly, with her caressing the back of my head like she wanted to kiss. Then she stops herself like "wait this is too fast." I agree, but continue hugging her. Eventually it's time for her to go, and I walk her to the station. We hug again on the elevator down to the main floor. On the way to the station, we're holding hands. I initiate it of course. I could tell that if I'd stopped holding her hands she'd not be into doing it again. At the station i ask if I can see her again. She said sure, just give her a call. If she's free then it's all good. We hug again and at this point my eyes are really desperate because I know I fucked up and wouldn't see her again. I purposely didn't write her for 4 days while I was in Rhineland Pfalz seeing an LTR. I come back to Nuremberg Tuesday morning and write her with a "hey how are you" type of sms. She writes back within an hour or two like "I'm a little sick since the weekend. How are you? How was your weekend?" I write her back a few hours later like "my weekend was awesome. how are you feeling now? if you want I can bring you some chicken soup ;)" but since then no answer since her one message on Tuesday. Thursday (today) at noon I call her wanting to ask her back to the franken restaurant for lunch tomorrow if she's at school, but no answer. I wrote her an sms asking the same thing. At this point, I know I've fucked up and came off as too needy. But I already know the outcome of this. I just wanted to make sure it was really over. She usually writes back pretty fast but since Tuesday I've written her twice and called her with no response. I'm not writing anymore. Mother fucking shit. It's SOOOOOO different with each girl. With her, the kino is probably what killed me. With others, not enough kino will kill you. Nothing I tried got her really comfy with me. Something tells me no matter which direction I went with her, whether it be super laid back or kinda aggressive like I was, I would get the same results. I'd be writing this FU report now saying "man, I should have been more aggressive." There were forces at work here that had nothing to do with me. I think she more than likely got back together with her boyfriend, but fuck, write me an sms or something telling me that. Is that too much to ask?? LOL. This just wasn't meant to be I guess. This hot, soon to be model, HB 10 slipped through my fingers and I can't stop thinking about it :(

Hey guys, Real quick: is it kosher to try and fuck her on the first date? My day 2's are usually played to get her in a sexual state during the date and bringing her back to my place to fuck. But... some things I've done here so far have been like "OMG, we don't do that in Germany!!" and some have not. Just wondering what you guys think. A bit of background: met the day 2 on the train kinda randomly, she was very open to kino but pointed out she's got a lot of "male friends," we exchanged numbers and agreed to meet friday, i call and tell her i'm not available friday anymore but earlier in the week is cool, she agrees to meet middle week and will come to my banhof to "go drinking or something." she seems keen, but then again she could think i'm just another kumpel. Cheers guys! BB BB

Thanks! It's weird and not always the same. I number closed a hottie and wrote her within 30 minutes. She wrote me the next day and we set up a date. Other girls, you're right. Writing too soon will hurt you. It's always hard to tell at first. My problem is attraction after initial attraction (??). I'm gonna try something new for me: calling them with quick little anecdotes about my day. Nothing too long. Preferably when I'm busy doing something else. Just a quick story about how cool my day was, ask them about their day, and say goodbye.

wow you guys are brutal LOL. ok. and for the record, anybody who knows me know that I can hack my way through most of that in deutsch, but I figure my vocabulary would be much better with the help of a dictionary :) basically, my street pickup is pretty good. I had a problem with attraction before but now it's gone. now the issue is getting them to day 2. My phone game sucks massive donkey kong balls. how do you guys keep the attraction going after the initial sarge? is it too early to sms her the same day? because sometimes I feel compelled to do so.

ok i'm going to try to post in German to reach a broader audience here. please I know my German is bad, but I hope you guys can nevertheless understand. Ich habe mein Attraktion Problem gelöst. Ich bin jetzt in der Lage, ein Mädchen auf der Straße anhalten, sprechen sie eine Weile erhalten, und wirklich glücklich mit mir zu sprechen, und nutzen Sie ihre handynummer mit dem Versprechen zu erfüllen "irgendwann" Das Problem ist, dann kann ich nicht eine Dynamik von der Anziehungskraft begann ich am Tag zuvor. mein phone game sucks! wie bist du jungs, über das Telefon Fortschritte? Ich weiss die Antwort ist ganz einfach, eine genaue meeting Zeit, wenn Sie zunächst auf Sarge ihrem Zeitplan. Aber manchmal ist dies nicht möglich ist und sie will lernen Sie zunächst wissen, bevor sie sich so etwas. Big thanks to Dang, Stefen and Torsten. You guys helped me a lot! Corey

My street game has improved a lot and i'm getting good results, but also a lot of flakes. Anything you guys do that avoids flakes? You get the number, a promise to meet again, then little or no SMS/phone time. Thanks!

Don't think this is a problem. 2:30 pm at the Lorenzkirche! Ok sounds good. See you there.

I'd like to come along too. But my German is not so good. Is that ok? What time?

Of course not. How could you know this, when you don´t even have talked to her already. From experience. Girls with strong eye contact usually open better than girls who are avoiding eye contact. It's a gut feeling I get that tells me who wants me to open and who doesn't. Anyway, with me I honestly think the girls are attracted to me but afraid to "gawk" or stare at me so they turn away when I notice. I should probably see this as an IOI and move in to sarge. But yeah eye contact is definitely something I need to work more on. Even in set my eye contact is so weak. I need to work on "the gaze." I use to be good at it.

It's always been my belief that a successful sarge starts with good eye contact. But I rarely get it, or when I do the girl quickly turns the other way. Would you take this as a hint that she's not interested? Would this bother you guys or stop you from approaching? Even when she makes an effort to not look at you? Thanks.

Ich werde dort sein.